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Technical Considerations: Large Tile Installation

By Dave Gobis
February 13, 2011
The desire for small grout joints is well understood. What is often overlooked and misunderstood is both the level of quality needed in the tile product and amount of additional floor preparation required. Many problems could be prevented if a firm policy existed for addressing both as part of the sale. Photo courtesy Caeser Ceramics USA.


Ceramic tile continues to get bigger and the quality better. Consumers seem to love it; bigger tile, less grout, easier maintenance. I remember when large tile was considered 12x12, 25 to 30 years ago. We had much of the same conversations then as we do now about how we will get that tile to lay flat on the floor.

Prior to that, 6x6 quarry tile was everywhere with some occasional glazed 8x8. You could tile speed bumps with a 6x6! But then as now, some things never change, like the salespeople who point out how much easier the care of less grout and small or tight grout joints will be. There is even the occasional mention of benefit to the installer that bigger tile means faster installation and more money.

No one can argue that less grout certainly has the potential to make floor care easier. But, anyone who has ever installed large tile can tell you it certainly isn’t easier or less time consuming to install. The bigger tile gets, the more difficult the installation becomes. With 18x18 becoming the normal floor tile and 24x24 gaining ground, can 3’x3’ or 4’x4’ be far away? We are also starting to see much thinner tile in large sizes for the purposes of exterior cladding, as thin as 1/8” in a 4’ square! We also now have ventilated facades and computer floor systems available. Don’t know about you, but I am not so sure placing a 4’x4’ 100-pound clay surfacing unit on the floor should be called tile setting.

Setting material manufacturers have been developing many new products to aid big tile installation. Many of these new products are highly engineered and task specific. In the past, most manufacturers worked on a good, better, best system. These traditional thinset products provided different levels of performance and are still adequate for many of today’s larger tile product applications; but often with current construction techniques, consumer expectations, and installation requirements, sometimes tile installations benefit from task-specific products.

Environmental conditions affecting setting material considerations may include but are not limited to: the type and condition of the substrate, the desired drying time prior to traffic, the flatness of the substrate, temperature and humidity conditions of the jobsite and the use of the ceramic tile floor. Under these conditions installations can often benefit from use of specialized setting materials.

We see many installations currently being done using traditional and time-honored products by seasoned tile installers who insist on using products they are familiar with when they are not appropriate for the installation conditions. Probably the biggest error in this area is using a standard thinset where a medium bed is appropriate.

Unfortunately, neither architects nor builders are providing the structures and substrates that flatter floors and popular formats and patterns require. In my opinion that is due in no small part to our failure as an industry to educate them in the requirements. Often in the course of the sale or specifying process nobody wants to acknowledge the tighter tolerances for substrates required by such large brittle clay and mineral-based surfacing material. The popular choice of staggered rectangular tile complicates things a little further due to natural and inherent warpage accentuated by placing the end of one tile at the middle of another, making it even more intolerant of undulating surfaces.

Very large tile requires what is known as super flat floors. While it is possible to specify the necessary tolerances during the building process, they come at a substantial additional cost. The skilled labor able to produce such surfaces can also be challenging to find. The tile industry flatness recommendation of ¼” in 10’ is adopted and reflected in the tile industry documents but is a recommendation published by the wood and cement trade organizations. These recommendations came about long before it was even possible to manufacture the tile sizes that are common today. Recently there has been some movement to acknowledge the need for flatter floors.

The American Concrete Institute (ACI) publishes recommendations for slab work that is incorporated into both the Tile Council of North America Installation Handbook and the American National Standards for the Installation of Ceramic Tile. ACI has recently published a new document that addresses many concrete issues relative to flooring products including flatness. This document, ACI 302.2R-06 provides suggestions for dealing with various issues that typically arise. If you deal with concrete slabs extensively using any type of floor covering you would find it a very useful document in providing fact based information for educating everyone affected. It is available at www.concrete.org.

Borders and patterns are popular options with big tile. Not all patterns allow for concentric joint alignment. Tile thickness may also vary. Never assume either, always request the information prior to the sale or installation to avoid the unpleasantness that may otherwise result. Photo courtesy Crossville USA.

Of course much of our work is over an existing slab work installed sometime ago. When attempting to correct out-of-plane conditions with thinset while installing tile is very labor intensive and often results in an unsatisfactory installation. Floor filling underlayment products, self levelers, or even mortar beds may be required to achieve satisfactory flatness tolerances needed for large tile in many instances.

The next big challenge is selecting the appropriate bonding material. Selecting the appropriate thinset does not have to be a daunting task but you must consider both the site conditions and end use. If you are fortunate enough to have a flat surface you may want to consider a contact mortar. Contact mortars are designed to trowel smoothly and flow when under the tile to achieve coverage. With very large tile or if the area needs to be quickly returned to in service conditions, a rapid set version may be available. Contact mortars may allow for trowelling and eliminate the need for back buttering. If, however, the tile needs to be back buttered due to irregularities in the tile or substrate, a medium bed mortar would be more suitable.

Using a traditional thinset where additional build-up is required is a recipe for disaster. Regular thinset is designed for a side profile thickness of 3/32” to 3/8”. When used in thicker applications it loses its ability to bond and shrinks excessively causing fractures in soft tile and stone and possibly bond loss on dense tile such as porcelain. When installing any tile on walls, but large tile in particular, some of the new lightweight or non-sag thinsets offer superior bonds and faster drying times than conventional thinsets or mastics. Most mastic also has a maximum tile size limitation, typically 8”x8”. This is due to their inability to dry when used under large tile or thicker applications.

When selecting the appropriate trowel, not having thinset squish out of the joint is not part of the selection criteria! Industry recommendations for coverage are 80% interior areas and 95% wet or exterior installations. Selection depends on various reasons such as floor texture, tile backs, and floor flatness among a few. With very large tile, naturally occurring warpage may also influence the notch required to achieve coverage.

For many years the primary acceptable thinbed method of installing large unit tile has been to trowel the floor and back-butter each piece of tile. This remains an industry recommendation and a sound method of installing large tile. In the mid ‘90s, research by the National Tile Contractors Association showed that using a U-notch trowel and combing all the ridges the same direction followed by placing the tile perpendicular to the ridges with a back and forth motion achieved the needed coverage without back buttering in some instances.

Applying thinset to the back of the tile is always a good thing but very time consuming in today’s competitive environment. It does not eliminate the need to trowel the floor as well.

Tool manufacturers have come up with some oddly appearing notch configurations with amazing differences in coverage when compared to a conventional trowel configuration. Personally, I have found these to be the simplest way yet to achieve good coverage under the tile. Whatever your choice of methods, there is no right or wrong as long as you get good coverage under the tile.

A big tile article would not be complete without a discussion of grout joints and rectified tile. Rectified tile is squaring the tile on all sides by cutting or grinding so that measurable variance from tile to tile is minimized. There are important new standards that aid the installer substantially such as minimum grout joint width and new limitations on tile size, lippage, and thickness variations. Don’t forget that big tile and small grout joints still need movement joints. Even the perfect job is not going to stay that way if the installation cannot move as needed when required.

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David M. Gobis, a third-generation tile setter, is the Technical Director for the Ceramic Tile Education Foundation. A 35-year veteran of the trade, he owned and operated a successful contracting business for many years prior to his current position. Mr. Gobis is an author of numerous trade related articles and a frequent speaker at industry events. He is member of the Construction Specification Institute, International Code Council, American Concrete Institute, National Tile Contractors Technical Committee, and a voting member of The American National Standards for Ceramic Tile Installation and Setting Materials (ANSI A108/118), American Society for Testing of Materials (ASTM) C-21 Ceramic Whitewares, and Tile Council of America Installation Handbook committees.

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