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Flooring InstallationColumnsTile & Stone FlooringInstallation How-ToCTEF Tile Tip

CTEF Tile Tip

Caution: Natural Stone Tile Installed Over Wood Framing

By Scott Carothers
Method F250-15 Stone

Detail from Method F250-15 STONE in the 2015 TCNA Handbook. Used with permission.

September 1, 2015

Many consumers, builders and even some tile installers share the mistaken idea that natural stone tile products may be installed on the floor in the same way as is ceramic tile. In most installations this is completely untrue and will many times lead to a very costly replacement.

Many of these folks will tell you they have installed stone tile on a single layer of structural wood subfloor and backer board for years without problems. The main reason this poor choice is promoted comes from the desire to have the stone tile floor installed flush to the adjacent floor finish. While this is a nice idea as far as the flush surface goes, it is really a recipe for failure for the stone tile.

The 2015 TCNA Handbook has only one approved method for the installation of natural stone tile over wood framing with backer board. Method F250-15 STONE, as shown in the attached diagram, calls for the subfloor to be 19/32” tongue and groove plywood installed over wood joists at 16” on center with a 1/8” gap between sheets. The second layer, the plywood underlayment, is to be 15/32” for residential installations or 19/32” for light commercial installations which provides the needed strength and is the base for the backer board. These recommendations are based on the natural stone having adequate compressive strength, flexural strength and resistance to abrasion, but be aware that some stone tiles may not be appropriate for floor use.

The wood framed floor system must be in conformance with the applicable building codes prior to the natural stone installation. The maximum allowable floor member live load and concentrated load deflection is L/720. When an installation is to receive ceramic tile, the requirement is L/360. This means the stone tile floor structure must be twice as rigid (stiff) as the wood floor system required for a ceramic tile installation.

Additionally, the Marble Institute of America (MIA) prohibits installations of stone tile over single-layer wood floor systems under backer board since the joints between the subfloor panels cannot provide the necessary strength. Therefore, two layers of structural wood panel are required on floors to receive stone tile when backer board will be used as the substrate.

Before installing the next stone tile job over wood framing, read the entire TCNA Handbook F250 STONE detail along with the “Substrate Requirements” section in the front of the book on pages 30-31. This information, when put into practice, will yield better results without costly callbacks and failures.

KEYWORDS: installing tile natural stone underlayment

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Scott Carothers is the Academic Director of the Ceramic Tile Education Foundation (CTEF) headquartered in Mt. Juliet, Tennessee (Nashville area). In 2007, he was hired and tasked with creating the Certified Tile Installer (CTI) program and in 2012, he was part of the team that created the Advanced Certifications for Tile Installers (ACT) program. 

For eighteen years, he has been providing training and education to others in the tile industry. Carothers has been involved in the ceramic tile industry for over 44 years and was the owner of a successful retail store and installation firm prior to coming to CTEF. 

Carothers served as President and Chairman of the Board of the National Tile Contractors Association (NTCA), Chairman of the NTCA Technical Committee, named the NTCA Tile Person of the Year in 2005 and received the NTCA Ring of Honor in 2013. He is a voting member of the American National Standards Institute (ANSI), the Tile Council of North America (TCNA) Handbook, and NTCA Technical Committees. 

Scott has authored over 185 articles in tile industry print magazines including Floor Covering Installer, Tile, TileLetter, and eMagazine/Newsletter publications such as Floor Trends & Installation and TIleLetter along with covering numerous topics on the CTEF Blog, thereby sharing his knowledge and installation experience with his readers. Additionally, he recently retired from being a presenter and trainer for the NTCA Workshop and Regional Training programs and the NTCA Technical Hotline.

He may be contacted at scott@tilecareer.com or 864-222-2131.

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