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Flooring InstallationColumnsTile & Stone FlooringCTEF Tile Tip

Is Taking a Bad Job Worth Your Reputation?

By Scott Carothers
broken large-format tiles
A floor that was neither level nor flat enough to install large-format tile resulted in numerous broken tiles.
June 15, 2018

I recently took a call from a disgruntled owner who just completed a very unsatisfactory $1 million floor renovation which included the extensive use of porcelain and natural stone tile. Now that he can’t live with the finished product he is out to sue everyone involved.

This job was really unusual since a project of this caliber was completed with very few specifications. The tile, grout and other visual items were selected and approved, but the site conditions were never addressed with the owner.

When the tile installer looked at the job, he noticed that the floor was 1 1/2 in. out of level and not flat enough to install the large-format tile. The slab was also heavily cracked. The tile contractor brought these issues to the attention of the general contractor, but was told to bid the job as inexpensively as possible, not worry about the condition of the substrate and not tell the homeowner about the problems.

The job was not yet completed and already had numerous broken tiles, as seen in the attached photo. Ironically, the broken tiles occurred in the area where the deepest fill would have been required to flatten the floor. You may ask how it was determined that the broken tiles were the result of improper floor preparation. The homeowner was a camera guy who was excited to chronicle the progress of his project—little did he know that he was documenting a failure.

The details for this project could go on for several more paragraphs, but the point here is that the tile contractor should have known better. He did tell the general contractor that the substrate was not tile-ready but he was told, “Don’t worry about it. Just get it done.” That’s when the tile contractor should have walked away. He did not, and will most likely end up paying for some—if not all—of this failure.

When bidding a job, look at all of the jobsite conditions, bid them accordingly and stand by your assessment of the job. Being talked into doing this job was a bad choice. Just be glad it wasn’t you.

KEYWORDS: contractors flooring installers Large-Format Tiles natural stone porcelain tile

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Scott Carothers is the Academic Director of the Ceramic Tile Education Foundation (CTEF) headquartered in Mt. Juliet, Tennessee (Nashville area). In 2007, he was hired and tasked with creating the Certified Tile Installer (CTI) program and in 2012, he was part of the team that created the Advanced Certifications for Tile Installers (ACT) program. 

For eighteen years, he has been providing training and education to others in the tile industry. Carothers has been involved in the ceramic tile industry for over 44 years and was the owner of a successful retail store and installation firm prior to coming to CTEF. 

Carothers served as President and Chairman of the Board of the National Tile Contractors Association (NTCA), Chairman of the NTCA Technical Committee, named the NTCA Tile Person of the Year in 2005 and received the NTCA Ring of Honor in 2013. He is a voting member of the American National Standards Institute (ANSI), the Tile Council of North America (TCNA) Handbook, and NTCA Technical Committees. 

Scott has authored over 185 articles in tile industry print magazines including Floor Covering Installer, Tile, TileLetter, and eMagazine/Newsletter publications such as Floor Trends & Installation and TIleLetter along with covering numerous topics on the CTEF Blog, thereby sharing his knowledge and installation experience with his readers. Additionally, he recently retired from being a presenter and trainer for the NTCA Workshop and Regional Training programs and the NTCA Technical Hotline.

He may be contacted at scott@tilecareer.com or 864-222-2131.

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